thinking bout picking up TLD reels/also casting for pier

[clarence2society]

thoughtso ntld reels? advice??
any good?
which model?
multiple uses other than trolling??

it seems this is my next reel but i dunno

[clarence2society]

also want a good reel for distance casting from the pier not sure which way to go...something under 200 bucks?? i can get about 2/3 of the way to the buoys with my jigmaster 500s and 8 foot star rod....but i wanna go farther:P

[fishnfool73]

TLDs are not really made for casting. Jig master cast about as far as most other reels on the right rod and weight. Let me know if you want to pick up trolling gear I've got some for sale.

[clarence2society]

i just might soon.. boat is still down. ever tried tryign to find a shift cable and omc lower unit...FFS its impossible... i dunno if the dog gears are shot in the lower unit or if it is just the cable cause it was bad:(

[clarence2society]

my jigmaster for far casts is on an 8 foot star rod.... i was thinkin of just getting a longer rod.. i dunno. i see guys with avets or accurates casting way out... i usually throw a 6 ounce cause 4 seems too light..

[xtheline]

I have a TLD 15 spooled w/30 lb on an 8 1/2 foot Fenwick, casts pretty well for me. However the larger TLD's are not very good for casting. As far as a pier reel well under $200.00 I would rate the TLD 15 as a VERY good buy. More guts, faster and a nice drag and easier to cast than the Jigmaster. If you can pick up the TRQ which is the same size reel (from Shimano) only with a star drag, even better. Just my opinion.

[clarence2society]

right on... the post is really two separate questions... im interested in TLDs for the boat and trolling or jigging i have read....but as for the pier i wasnt thinking tld but open to ideas for distance casting i need to get out farther and i cast pretty good but i know i can go further with the right equipment. i would really like to go to a football field that is painted and see just how far i cast each rod and reel set up with diff weights and wind

[ffishermen1]

You can get an Avet mx for less than 200.

[tdimaniac]

Depends on what you want to cast and how educated your thumb is. I have a penn 525 mag. Not too difficult with bait and lead, or a jig/spoon. I wouldn't want to toss plugs into a stiff wind at night with it though. No longer made and the ones sold in the UK had a superior adjustment sytem. Been replaced by the squall. If your thumb isn't as educated, or you plan to do more plug casting, I'd look for an older, made in sweden, ABU. They are a much easier reel to cast. Daiwa SLOSH is another one to consider. Both the Penn and Daiwa have enough guts/drag to be used on the boat. The ABU is minimal although I have caught my fair share of kingfish and mutton on a 70's vintage ABU 6500.

The other reels you mention aren't casting reels. They are trolling reels that happen to cast okay.

Adding extra magnets to the 525 isn't a bad idea even for a seasoned caster. I'd also stick with mono. It is what I'd call "wickedly fast"....meaning able to cast a longgggggg ways but easy to birds nest. Consider yourself warned. Other than that, a great reel with way more balls than first appearance would suggest. MUCH better drag/gears than your jigmaster.

The TLD has always offered good value. I wouldn't buy the larger ones (over 15 size) as the frame is too weak to handle high drag settings. These days you can buy a more modern reel for a few more bucks and come out ahead. I have, and like, the Avet LX for our waters as a general purpose trolling reel.

[gruntking]

they suck for casting guy you have to constantly adjust the drag to get the reel to really free spool

[Ralph]

tdimaniac is right on.

Look at the Penn Squall 12 and 15 and the Daiwa SL-H and Daiwa Sealine X-SHA reels.

The Penn Squall 12 and 15 have externally adjustable magnetic brakes. The Daiwas have mechanical, internal centrifigal brakes. These reels are designed for distance casting. Both designs work well but the reels with adjustable magnetic brakes are the easiest to use.

I have a Penn Squall 15 for sale on ebay right now. Starting bid is $100.

My main pier reel is the Daiwa Sealine X50-SHA. I'm a monofilament guy and that reel holds alot of mono. The Squalls are smaller and are mainly used by the braid guys.

[gdm phil]

you can cast almost any conventional far as long as yu set the drag properly before casting. to loose and birds nest to tight and no distanceyou want to the spool to spin at the same speed the line is going out technically

[gruntking]

you can cast almost any conventional far as long as yu set the drag properly before casting. to loose and birds nest to tight and no distanceyou want to the spool to spin at the same speed the line is going out technically

but who really want to re adjust there reel everytime they cast

[clarence2society]

yeah see i messed with the tension on my 500hs jig and well has nothing but crank issues and casting issues since.. i actually nested horribly last night and cut every last piece of that crappy momoi line off my reel. there was no way it was coming out i blew it out.. i tightened up after and respooled cheap 30 lb and wow way better than the momoi go figure... i never really had nest issues with my jigs til i did that... and my thumb is pretty skilled considering i have no tendon between my web from a bull riding accident lol. tequila ranch then i reinjured it andi have to use the crank as leverage for my index to give the thumb more stability, however it has not hindered me too badly... keith im sure remembers seeing me at anglins with my hand wrapped when my ex slammed my hand in the door... heh but it has gotten better and im confidant in my skills on casting conventional...just need the right setup basically....i have found i throw better with the jigs with 6 ounce and my thunnus spinner heavy as it is i fling farther than that with a or 4 ounce.. i am gonna try five on the thunnus tonight. thats on a 9 foot pole. and the long butt i put to use the other night more than usual and i was getting her way out but still not to buoy. i dunno hwo far out i was getting the other night cause it was so damn dark out... but i figure if i dont hear the splash down its a decent cast

oh and im not a big braid guy myself...id hate to burn my thumb with braid on a slip or bad throw.. OWWWWWWWWWWW bye bye skin hello bone...no thanks..maybe braid below and top shot of good mono for casting.
example my red old school jigmaster had 30lb on it...but i got snagged up bad on the boat and lost half of it or more so i put 50 on it and it casts just fine... looks like a nest at times but i control it fine so no big deal....feels good and for heavy line iwas putting it out there pretty good.... what if i just got longer rods for the jigs should help some. no?
im sure theres points i wanted to make to the rest of what you guys said but im at work in the dj booth so i may have gotten overwhelmed reading all this... im gonna research all this stuff today while it is slow at the club...

[clarence2society]

dudei got pink ande 20 on my spinners and momoi blue 30 on my conv. 4 reels all of them snap at every knot i tie no matter the knot.. i spooled them at basspro... and both spools of line i paid like 27 bucks or something to spool all four reels and the liens snapped and broke at the slightest pull of my knots... never had that issue til i bought those to lines from BP... HORRIBLE. takes 10 knots at times to get a good one that wont break.. i have replaced half the reels lines

[clarence2society]

right on.. i switched my battle to 20lb clear ande and its fine so far btu nto from bass pro...and 30 lb ande on my red jig with ghost 50 mono on top...its a little stiff but i get it out there pretty well...with 6 oz

[clarence2society]

awesome and yeah i have my jig on an 8 ft star rod and i love that rod...i have my old red jig on that rod right now and its hard to see hwo far im throwing in the dark... i was doin ok the other night....my hs is on a smaller boat rod for now....i was thinking maybe i should go with a 9 or ten foot:P i dunno...

[clarence2society]

maybe i should just do that and put a longer rod to my hs and see how that works out for me....itll get use either way.

[clarence2society]

any recommendations ?

[xtheline]

Clarence, too much thought! get what u want but a TLD15 will work great for pier as well as boat for what. . $129.00 or $139.00. You were point on with braid backing. As Rare said 150 yd of mono on top. Since you fish Anglins regularly. You only have to re spool 150yd of mono when your line gets scarfed. Economical. Accurates, Avets etc. forget about it. Get the TLD or similar and then you can start upgrading your rods. Quality rods suited to the type of fishing you are doing will make a lot of difference. A more expensive reel will NOT make you a better caster. Go online and research fishing knots! You can get by in most situations with 3 or 4 knots if you learn to tie them well. Rare and all of the other guys on here who have been where you are (myself included) have all had roomfuls of tackle that we wound up selling off 'cause it was crap or just not right for what we were doing. Except for Chris, he was born a fisherman. Good luck.

[ricky9]

I have a tld 15 paired with an 8ft rod that I use when fishing the keys. Casting works good, granted a 9ft rod will provide better distances and handle bigger fish like rare says. I also only use ande pink on all my reels. Momoi leader is good however.

[Boca Jetty Rat]

Daiwa BG30H for casting pier. I have two that rock.

[clarence2society]

keith i totally agree expense doesnt make it better. more or less i know i can cast quite well i was actually ripping the jig last night but couldnt see how far.. i know i surpassed my top shot...and like we spoke of before if you can cast a jigmaster you can cast anything...i just want something more suited for long distance to increase my distancei already have...in essence more distance and cast friendly is my point... good point on tld 15 for both uses and with the mono on top no burns:) cant beat boat and pier reel for that price and quality. i wish i had had the money to pick up that custom when you offered it.. i liked that rod a lot:)

i usually stick with 3 or 4 knots actually: uni of course, trilene i like a lot cause the double hoop, just learned palomar, love albrights, uni to uni as well...and your typical clinches. i do have a hard time since the thumb injury but i manage fairly well